It was late in 2008 when Panasonic and Olympus announced micro Four-Thirds and when Panasonic quickly introduced the DMC-G1.
Panasonic had very little success with the DMC-L1 or the DMC-L10 and partner Leica didn't really do much with the Digilux 3 dSLR. Olympus had more like with the E-330 (like the DMC-L1 or Digilux 3) from that time, bringing Live View to the masses.
However, Panasonic, by itself with the G1, made people think. It was a dSLR-style camera body and the controls were similar enough that it didn't confuse. It was just that there wasn't much available, especially since Olympus didn't have anything ready. If not for the Four-Thirds lens adapter, there would not have been much available at all.
Those lenses have helped me transition from Four-Thirds to micro Four-Thirds, though I'm still skeptical about the system, even though I own the Olympus E-M1, Panasonic GH4, and 4 native micro Four-Thirds lenses.
If my skepticism was strong for micro Four-Thirds, it was impossible to break concerning Sony's NEX-system. It still doesn't have very good support since 2009 when it arrived. FujiFilm has certainly surpassed Sony in many ways, most prominently in lenses.
Samsung has once again come with something, and it's not a Sony clone this time. The NX1 and the NX500 actually seem useful. It took them several generations of crap, and they barely have any lenses or industry support. I wondered if they would have transitioned their name to Beta, to match Sony's change to differentiate themselves from the copier. It might be interesting to see if Samsung could manufacture (micro) Four-Thirds sensors for Panasonic, Olympus, and those hiding behind the Kodak name.
Sony has recently shown that they have created a 20 MP sensor for (micro) Four-Thirds, which is interesting, if it can improve only low light photography. ISO 3200 seems my reasonable limit. However, seeing the Pentax K-50 with a lower pixel density at ISO 3200, it seems APS-C is not really better, even though the high limit of the K-50 is ISO 51,200. Perhaps, with a higher resolution lens, it would be better.
Of course, Sony's 135 Format A7-series is much more interesting, as far as technology goes. As far as lenses go, my skepticism is very high. Adapters are much more necessary than they are with micro Four-Thirds. For my use, a dSLR is still better but for those who don't photograph sports, the A7 Mk II looks a treat. For people who don't mind huge lenses, and back-breaking backpacks, 135 Format is great, mirror-less or otherwise.
I've been looking at old lenses recently and it's amusing to see the old crap that I used to have to sell because there were so few great lenses. I'm so thankful for the digital revolution, especially since Olympus' Four-Thirds lenses made things so much better.
The company has been making headway with their "PRO" series lenses, despite the silly name. The 12-40mm f/2.8 is quite good, especially for just under $1000. I wish they could have put a bit more of the ZD 14-35mm f/2.0 goodness into it, but it would have raised the price, and increased the size and weight to where the lightweights would have complained. However, a 67mm filter size might have allowed an f/2.5 maximum aperture instead of f/2.8. I've used the ZD 14-35mm f/2.0 with the Panasonic GH3, so a 67mm or 72mm filter size wouldn't have bothered me--the closer to f/2.0 the better.
Third party lenses are few, and I'm not sure any of the lenses from Tamron or Sigma are worth it. Does Tokina even make lenses for mirror-less? Voigtländer has made some good lenses for micro Four-Thirds, and Zeiss has native lenses for Sony, and adapted cinema lenses for micro Four-Thirds. I'm sure if I wanted a US$20,000 lens for my Panasonic GH4, a Zeiss lens would be my first choice.
Thankfully, Veydra, a crowdsourced startup is working on making affordable cine lenses of a uniform size for micro Four-Thirds. Competing with Zeiss' Compact Prime series will be difficult, but does everyone need Zeiss? With a lack of electronic connections, these are for the serious users who want to control their imagery, just as those from Zeiss are. The prices are quite different between the two lines.
While Canon, Nikon, and Pentax have all created mirror-less models, they seem afraid to encroach on their dSLRs, and have given somewhat too interesting alternatives.
FujiFilm has been the most exciting company in the market, with some interesting choices. They have the best selection of lenses for any APS-C sized sensor camera bodies. While they've been stuck at 16MP, that isn't necessarily a bad thing, considering the lower pixel density. The X-T1 is a valuable body with a great EVF and enough dials to make enthusiasts' eyes spin in their sockets.
The company continues to update the firmware with fixes and new additions. It almost seems as they've kicked Panasonic and Olympus into update mode, also. For me, the X-T1 could have more of a grip and since there would be more room, a bigger battery. I haven't tried the X-T1 since the 50-140mm f/2.8 lens has become available, but I wonder about the balance. There are many times when a dSLR still feels just right for shooting sports. However, I rarely pull out a dSLR these days.
For the majority of camera users, mirror-less models make sense, especially for those who buy a base dSLR and only use the kit lens and set everything to Auto. Sure, you can take good photos with those, but the same can be said for cameras without the mirror slap.
One thing about mirror-less camera bodies remain--the many acronyms. MILC seems to fit best because they are indeed Mirror-less, Interchangeable Lens Cameras. ILC could include dSLRs and rangefinders. CSC (Compact System Cameras) wouldn't have to have interchangeable lenses. EVIL doesn't seem to fit as things have progressed since the original Panasonic DMC-G1.
MILCs haven't taken control of the market, but I can see when the crowd is better informed, that they could.
Update 2015.11.06: I just noticed that DPReview wanted the world to see Ming Thein's article on mirror-less cameras. The backlash was mean. Of course, this just means that people didn't agree with his assessment--or that he stepped on their toes, rejecting their choices. A certain Sony user was particularly aggressive. I think I've met that user online a time or two.
I agree with most of his assessments. He apparently had not used the Panasonic GH4, which for me, is as close to the perfect mirror-less body as is possible from one company. He is working from the point of view, like mine, about getting things done. I want to get the shots I need (accurately) and get to the next job without the camera getting in the way.
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Showing posts with label NEX-system. Show all posts
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Wednesday, November 20, 2013
Who will buy the Samsung Galaxy NX camera?
I've read recently that the Galaxy NX camera is available in the U.S.A. for about US$1600.
Make no mistake, I'm not a fan of Samsung products. I think the company leaves a lot to be desired in the operation of their products. It's as though they have a checklist of features and as soon as they add a feature, working correctly or not, they check that line as completed.
They've become better since Google takes care of the backend of a lot of their products. Without Android, they'd be as craptacular as they were the last time I owned one of their products. They had indicated a desire to do things on their own with Bada but that failed, although it's probably being fed some money to keep the project alive. From my viewpoint, they're just trying to keep the overall business in line with Sony and Panasonic and of course, to crush LG at home.
I've seen in the past that a few people went with their re-branding of Pentax dSLRs to make their own GX line. They did okay because Pentax gave them some base code and the hardware. There wasn't much to go wrong with doing some tweaks. When I would say something about the GX line, someone would raucously defend their purchase, as if it was a life-or-death situation. I've recently seen the same thing with their NX line.
NX--like Sony's NEX--they couldn't even come up with a series name on their own it seems. However, they went on their own because Pentax wasn't going to mirror-less system cameras yet. They filled out their mighty checklist and added features one-by-one until they had the perfect specification for a camera. It's not that unusual in the electronics industry, and even related more specifically to computers and tablets, it's not unusual. Sony obviously works from a checklist.
Samsung has created NX-series cameras in several generations, but they don't have much in the way of sales compared to Olympus, Panasonic, or Sony. I'm guessing that the majority of their buyers have Samsung phones, tablets, and phablets like the Galaxy Note series.
That makes the Galaxy NX camera all the more appealing to that group. They can use the connectivity in the camera to avoid depleting the battery life on their phones, tablets, and phablets.
However, is US$1600 too dear for the ability to take a photo and massage it using some Android-based app and upload it using another app? Is it so convenient that the extra cost doesn't matter? I've recently seen the NX300 for US$700-$800, which seems consistent with other brands with more lenses and accessories. It's odd to think that Sony's NEX line has more support, given that they have churned out body after body but still have few lenses. The only mirror-less system camera with fewer lenses is the Canon EOS-M with two lenses.
The only thing that would make this situation more strange would be for LG to make an alliance with a camera maker and start producing an Android-based camera of its own.
Make no mistake, I'm not a fan of Samsung products. I think the company leaves a lot to be desired in the operation of their products. It's as though they have a checklist of features and as soon as they add a feature, working correctly or not, they check that line as completed.
They've become better since Google takes care of the backend of a lot of their products. Without Android, they'd be as craptacular as they were the last time I owned one of their products. They had indicated a desire to do things on their own with Bada but that failed, although it's probably being fed some money to keep the project alive. From my viewpoint, they're just trying to keep the overall business in line with Sony and Panasonic and of course, to crush LG at home.
I've seen in the past that a few people went with their re-branding of Pentax dSLRs to make their own GX line. They did okay because Pentax gave them some base code and the hardware. There wasn't much to go wrong with doing some tweaks. When I would say something about the GX line, someone would raucously defend their purchase, as if it was a life-or-death situation. I've recently seen the same thing with their NX line.
NX--like Sony's NEX--they couldn't even come up with a series name on their own it seems. However, they went on their own because Pentax wasn't going to mirror-less system cameras yet. They filled out their mighty checklist and added features one-by-one until they had the perfect specification for a camera. It's not that unusual in the electronics industry, and even related more specifically to computers and tablets, it's not unusual. Sony obviously works from a checklist.
Samsung has created NX-series cameras in several generations, but they don't have much in the way of sales compared to Olympus, Panasonic, or Sony. I'm guessing that the majority of their buyers have Samsung phones, tablets, and phablets like the Galaxy Note series.
That makes the Galaxy NX camera all the more appealing to that group. They can use the connectivity in the camera to avoid depleting the battery life on their phones, tablets, and phablets.
However, is US$1600 too dear for the ability to take a photo and massage it using some Android-based app and upload it using another app? Is it so convenient that the extra cost doesn't matter? I've recently seen the NX300 for US$700-$800, which seems consistent with other brands with more lenses and accessories. It's odd to think that Sony's NEX line has more support, given that they have churned out body after body but still have few lenses. The only mirror-less system camera with fewer lenses is the Canon EOS-M with two lenses.
The only thing that would make this situation more strange would be for LG to make an alliance with a camera maker and start producing an Android-based camera of its own.
Wednesday, June 6, 2012
Schneider-Kreuznach and micro Four-Thirds
Supposedly, an announcement is coming in the next week from Schneider-Kreuznach about lenses they're making available for the micro Four-Thirds format.
I have a few questions about this like:
Will these be electronically compatible, fully usable with auto exposure and auto focus?
What happens to Samsung's NX-system, if Schneider-Kreuznach adds to micro Four-Thirds?
When Panasonic added a low end (micro Four-Thirds) professional video camera, which is high above the micro Four-Thirds still camera bodies, to their line, it set a new tone for the format. Suddenly, a number of cine lenses became available, even to those using the DMC-GH1 and DMC-GH2 bodies for video recording.
Now, the sense of putting a US$3000 lens on a US$800 body may not seem reasonable but given what you can do with a properly-hacked GH2, it's not completely insane. It's also not completely different than taking a US$3000 body and adding an US$8000 lens and professionals do that all the time, don't they?
I still don't see me getting into the video business, though trying video may give me a better, more flexible perspective on still images. I've barely experimented with the Live View functionality, even though I can see limited use for it for photographing animals or shooting over a crowd. (Should you be hovering a heavy dSLR and heavy lens over someone's head, trying to get a shot into the crowd? Justin Bieber might hit you, if he doesn't like it.)
In any case, Schneider-Kreuznach could really change the balance of things if they offer lenses that are fully compatible with micro Four-Thirds, so that they work with auto focus and auto exposure. Their lenses have been Samsung's only hope to get more serious users buying their NX-system. If they lose that exclusivity, it would doom the mostly-sinking ship, and provide micro Four-Thirds a new boost against Sony's NEX-system, if Sony's format isn't included in their plans or the announcement.
They made their announcement and I wrote about it in this post.
I have a few questions about this like:
Will these be electronically compatible, fully usable with auto exposure and auto focus?
What happens to Samsung's NX-system, if Schneider-Kreuznach adds to micro Four-Thirds?
When Panasonic added a low end (micro Four-Thirds) professional video camera, which is high above the micro Four-Thirds still camera bodies, to their line, it set a new tone for the format. Suddenly, a number of cine lenses became available, even to those using the DMC-GH1 and DMC-GH2 bodies for video recording.
Now, the sense of putting a US$3000 lens on a US$800 body may not seem reasonable but given what you can do with a properly-hacked GH2, it's not completely insane. It's also not completely different than taking a US$3000 body and adding an US$8000 lens and professionals do that all the time, don't they?
I still don't see me getting into the video business, though trying video may give me a better, more flexible perspective on still images. I've barely experimented with the Live View functionality, even though I can see limited use for it for photographing animals or shooting over a crowd. (Should you be hovering a heavy dSLR and heavy lens over someone's head, trying to get a shot into the crowd? Justin Bieber might hit you, if he doesn't like it.)
In any case, Schneider-Kreuznach could really change the balance of things if they offer lenses that are fully compatible with micro Four-Thirds, so that they work with auto focus and auto exposure. Their lenses have been Samsung's only hope to get more serious users buying their NX-system. If they lose that exclusivity, it would doom the mostly-sinking ship, and provide micro Four-Thirds a new boost against Sony's NEX-system, if Sony's format isn't included in their plans or the announcement.
They made their announcement and I wrote about it in this post.
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